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What does "Ascendancy of the Last" mean to us?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:29 am
by Noraimund
[Shir'le EDIT] Change the topic title somewhat to avoid confusion with the other thread in general.

*Spoilers*















Does anyone have any idea what exactly this bodes for the future? I mean...WotC really went for the carpet bomb with this trilogy, and I'm more than a little upset by the *sic* resolution. Does anyone have any idea how faith will play out now?

Is there now no hope of redemption for other drow? Where are all the previous faithful of Eilistraee and the rest going? How much of Vhaeraun was still left in her? I never received a satisfactory explaination on that.

Does anyone have an idea?

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 4:49 am
by Bhaern Quel
All in all we do not know yet, there is some unofficial information that if Drow can change their skin they can be redeemed.
The first announced planned release of 4th FR is this years GenCon. Of course some information might be released sooner. As you likely have already seen there has been different interpertations of the Status of Lady Silverhair, after book two there were discussions about the actually status of the Masked Lord.

So in the end we need to see the Source book that answers the questions which is at min months away and could be years away.

Posted: Thu Jun 05, 2008 7:12 pm
by Arathen
well, I have yet to read the book, but from how the epilogue was described to me it seems she does indeed survive. But...we shall see, eh? Hope for the best.

Posted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:30 am
by Noraimund
[quote="Arathen":e1sayb8d] but from how the epilogue was described to me it seems she does indeed survive. [/quote:e1sayb8d]

That's not the impression that I got, from the conversation Cavatina had with her parents in Arvandor, at the book's ending.

:/ Do we only have one 'drow' god now?

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:14 pm
by Thalon Mercrow
only if you think that way.


also Noraimund could you change the name of this forum thers was one already called 'ascendencey of the last' when you posted

Posted: Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:42 pm
by Bhaern Quel
[quote="Thalon Mercrow":sdxwd2qr]only if you think that way.


also Noraimund could you change the name of this forum thers was one already called 'ascendencey of the last' when you posted[/quote:sdxwd2qr]

I believe you mean the thread subject, not even I can change the name of this forum.

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:30 am
by Thalon Mercrow
thanks for the correcection

Posted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:33 am
by Shir'le E. Illios
[quote="Noraimund":xdq6zp6o]Do we only have one 'drow' god now?[/quote:xdq6zp6o]
The Forgotten Realms seem to, yes.

But as such the Forgotten Realms have no relevance to us at all anymore.


Love -x-x-x-

Shir'le

Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 1:52 am
by Vendrin
In 4E, Eilistraee is dead and gone. I say simply abandon 4E and play in a world that continues in 3.5 from a point of your choosing, building your own cannon from there.

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 5:53 am
by Autumn
Okay....I just read the book and...I would like to toss in 2 cents here....


I do not think Elistraee is dead...at least not forever. I mean She Died supposedly doing what Her realm/and such is about. REdeeming the drow, Similiar to how another god died during the Time of troubles. and he was revived.


secondly...Corellian *sp* his reaction there with The Spider witch *I refuse to use her name* Was -entirely- wrong for a grieving father which is what he should have been given he does love his daughter despite who her mother is.


Thirdly..her realm did not vanish...and her peices becoming His to move.


This is my....well theory and well I know it may be wrong.


Elistraee The goddess of the drow -did- die..BUT She transformed her followers with Quille's sacrifice from Drow BACK to miyutari (spelling again sorry) And thus her realm returend to Arvandor makign it a part of Corellion's Realm and control. NOT The Spider witches. Which means YEs the old Elistraee is gone but perhaps....she is/may be reborn in the Surface elven pantheon In arvandor as the matroness of the restored Miyutari....and redeemed illythari if there are still some who can / want to be redeemed.


Just....well my two cents here *Ducks into a bunker for the incomign barrages*

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:08 am
by Argoth
That's not a bad one actually.

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:20 am
by Narsia Ny'Dhun
Not bad at all, but I think everyone's figured that much already, it's just a moot point since as far as WoTC are concerned right now she's dead and gone until they decide otherwise, which means they're still jerking us around and we're still screwed no mater what her 'death' implies for the future.

Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 8:05 pm
by Autumn
TRue....but at least there is still...a faint hope.

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:37 am
by Argoth
Yeah, to take our faithful asses and revive Her somewhere we can all be safe.

Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:41 pm
by Arathen
I, for one, am already planning a series of adventures for my group that will culminate in her revival, since I'm not content to just jump ship.