Drow deities of Greyhawk
Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2014 4:58 pm
I see a lot of talk about Forgotten Realms here, but I thought it might be fun to make a list of the deities that drow worship on Oerth, so that we could talk about the ways they are similar or different.
[align=center:128c45a2][b:128c45a2]Drow Pantheon of Greyhawk[/b:128c45a2][/align:128c45a2]
[table=width:100%;border;1px solid #cccccc;:128c45a2][tr=text-align:center;][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2]Name (Power)[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2]Alignment[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid blue;][b:128c45a2]Domains[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2]Favoured Weapon[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2]Symbol[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2]Portfolio[/b:128c45a2][/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:center;][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2][url=http://www.canonfire.com/wiki/index.php ... o:128c45a2]Keptolo[/url:128c45a2] (D)[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]CE[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Chaos, Domination, Evil, Knowledge, Travel[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Longsword[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Stylized mushroom[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Drow Males, Flattery, Intoxication, Rumor, Opportunism[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:center;][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2][url=http://www.canonfire.com/wiki/index.php ... i:128c45a2]Kiaransali[/url:128c45a2] (D)[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]CE[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Chaos, Death, Evil, Madness, Pestilence[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]"Coldheart"(dagger)[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Female drow hand wearing silver rings[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Drow, Slavery, Vengeance, Undeath[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:center;][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2][url=http://www.canonfire.com/wiki/index.php ... h:128c45a2]Lolth[/url:128c45a2] (I)[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]CE[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Chaos, Destruction, Domination, Evil, Oracle, Pestilence, Trickery[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Whip[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Black spider with the head of a drow female[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Drow, Spiders, Evil, Darkness, Chaos[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:center;][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2][url=http://www.canonfire.com/wiki/index.php ... n:128c45a2]Vhaeraun[/url:128c45a2] (L)[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]CE[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Chaos, Drow, Evil, Travel, Trickery[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Short sword[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]A pair of black glass lenses that form a mask[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Thievery, Drow Males,
Evil Activity on the Surface[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:center;][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2][url=http://www.canonfire.com/wiki/index.php ... a:128c45a2]Zinzerena[/url:128c45a2] (HD)[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]CN[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Chaos, Luck, Trickery[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Short sword[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]The draped sword[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Deception, Humiliation, Ambush, Chaos, Assassination[/td][/tr][/table:128c45a2]
[b:128c45a2]Absent:[/b:128c45a2] Eilistraee, Ghunnadaur, Selverarm.
[b:128c45a2]New:[/b:128c45a2] Keptolo, Zinzerena.
[b:128c45a2]Altered:[/b:128c45a2] Kiaransalee (altered name, altered domains, enlarged portfolio, improved backstory*), Lolth (altered domains, altered weapon, altered portfolio, more dominant), Vhaeraun (weapon not named, not identified as Lolth's son).
[i:128c45a2]* = Kiaransali gets a Prime Material Plane world called [url=http://www.canonfire.com/wiki/index.php ... r:128c45a2]Guldor[/url:128c45a2] (aka Moraad) which is probably in another crystal sphere, rather than Greyspace (or Realmspace).[/i:128c45a2]
It seems that Lolth is much more dominant on Oerth than on Toril.
What do people think of the setup?
Assuming (and I am going to assume) that Oerth and Greyspace is in the same multiverse as Toril and Realmspace, what do you think might account for the changes?
How might Eilistraee, Ghunnadaur and Selverarm be excluded from Greyhawk?
What do you think of Keptolo and Zinzerena?
What do you think of the changes in Kiaransalee, Lolth and Vhaeraun?
Is the backstory with the world of dead drow unique to Greyhawk or does Kiaransalee have something similar in Forgotten Realms?
Does having a "boyfriend" change Lolth?
Does Vhaeraun work differently if he is not tied into Lolth? Would that make the drow think of him or Lolth differently or would it make no difference?
[align=center:128c45a2][b:128c45a2]Drow Pantheon of Greyhawk[/b:128c45a2][/align:128c45a2]
[table=width:100%;border;1px solid #cccccc;:128c45a2][tr=text-align:center;][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2]Name (Power)[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2]Alignment[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid blue;][b:128c45a2]Domains[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2]Favoured Weapon[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2]Symbol[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2]Portfolio[/b:128c45a2][/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:center;][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2][url=http://www.canonfire.com/wiki/index.php ... o:128c45a2]Keptolo[/url:128c45a2] (D)[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]CE[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Chaos, Domination, Evil, Knowledge, Travel[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Longsword[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Stylized mushroom[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Drow Males, Flattery, Intoxication, Rumor, Opportunism[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:center;][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2][url=http://www.canonfire.com/wiki/index.php ... i:128c45a2]Kiaransali[/url:128c45a2] (D)[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]CE[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Chaos, Death, Evil, Madness, Pestilence[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]"Coldheart"(dagger)[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Female drow hand wearing silver rings[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Drow, Slavery, Vengeance, Undeath[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:center;][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2][url=http://www.canonfire.com/wiki/index.php ... h:128c45a2]Lolth[/url:128c45a2] (I)[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]CE[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Chaos, Destruction, Domination, Evil, Oracle, Pestilence, Trickery[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Whip[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Black spider with the head of a drow female[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Drow, Spiders, Evil, Darkness, Chaos[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:center;][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2][url=http://www.canonfire.com/wiki/index.php ... n:128c45a2]Vhaeraun[/url:128c45a2] (L)[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]CE[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Chaos, Drow, Evil, Travel, Trickery[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Short sword[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]A pair of black glass lenses that form a mask[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Thievery, Drow Males,
Evil Activity on the Surface[/td][/tr]
[tr=text-align:center;][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;][b:128c45a2][url=http://www.canonfire.com/wiki/index.php ... a:128c45a2]Zinzerena[/url:128c45a2] (HD)[/b:128c45a2][/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]CN[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Chaos, Luck, Trickery[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Short sword[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]The draped sword[/td][td=border;1px solid #cccccc;]Deception, Humiliation, Ambush, Chaos, Assassination[/td][/tr][/table:128c45a2]
[b:128c45a2]Absent:[/b:128c45a2] Eilistraee, Ghunnadaur, Selverarm.
[b:128c45a2]New:[/b:128c45a2] Keptolo, Zinzerena.
[b:128c45a2]Altered:[/b:128c45a2] Kiaransalee (altered name, altered domains, enlarged portfolio, improved backstory*), Lolth (altered domains, altered weapon, altered portfolio, more dominant), Vhaeraun (weapon not named, not identified as Lolth's son).
[i:128c45a2]* = Kiaransali gets a Prime Material Plane world called [url=http://www.canonfire.com/wiki/index.php ... r:128c45a2]Guldor[/url:128c45a2] (aka Moraad) which is probably in another crystal sphere, rather than Greyspace (or Realmspace).[/i:128c45a2]
It seems that Lolth is much more dominant on Oerth than on Toril.
What do people think of the setup?
Assuming (and I am going to assume) that Oerth and Greyspace is in the same multiverse as Toril and Realmspace, what do you think might account for the changes?
How might Eilistraee, Ghunnadaur and Selverarm be excluded from Greyhawk?
What do you think of Keptolo and Zinzerena?
What do you think of the changes in Kiaransalee, Lolth and Vhaeraun?
Is the backstory with the world of dead drow unique to Greyhawk or does Kiaransalee have something similar in Forgotten Realms?
Does having a "boyfriend" change Lolth?
Does Vhaeraun work differently if he is not tied into Lolth? Would that make the drow think of him or Lolth differently or would it make no difference?