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Arathen · Post by **Arathen** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 8:39 pm

none that I can think of

Vendrin · Post by **Vendrin** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:11 pm

[quote="Arathen":3548e2yw]well, actually, seeing as they made the entire Baldur's Gate series into books, I'm fairly certain it's canon.[/quote:3548e2yw]

I don't think so because there is no mention of the destruction of Saradush(as I am fairly certain the town is still in existance and thriving in the FRCS and later books), or the bhaalspawn wars, etc. Also the companions of the bhaalspawn are not mentioned anywhere, because if they were some, if not all would be more powerful then Elminster.

Merinid Tlin'orzza · Post by **Merinid Tlin'orzza** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:07 am

Saradush still exists, clearly on the FR Poster Map which can be downloaded here: [url=http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dn ... a:2q0o4z10]Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting Map Gallery[/url:2q0o4z10]

Bhaern Quel · Post by **Bhaern Quel** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:16 am

Basic rule whatever has FR logo is canon.

The most recent trumps/changes prior text. In the event that recent printed source book conflicts with FR novel (or other prpget carring the FR logo) the source book should be considered best source of information.
There is no clear guideline about what recently published consistist of. Perhaps a few months, but I get the sense no longer then a year to determine if a slightly older source book trumps a more recent novel (or other FR product).

Zakharra · Post by **Zakharra** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 8:07 pm

[quote="Bhaern Quel":5zq6c83d]Oh minor tidbit, Ed did not create QiluÃ© he had only wrote something to the effect the Seventh sister was called ""The Dark Disaster", Steven E. Schend used that pharse to generate QiluÃ© to, it is reported, Ed's surprise. I will have to search for a quote, but it appears Ed never intended to name the Seventh, allowing DMs to make their own if so desired.

What Ed says is canon unless TSR then and WotC now, put something in print that changes what Ed said.

Edit: Fixed some typos and turned that upsidedown "p" over.[/quote:5zq6c83d]

Heh. Qilue is the 'Bad' Sister. Hehehehehe

Post by **Shir'le E. Illios** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 10:06 am

[quote="Vendrin":24h3eunw]Also the companions of the bhaalspawn are not mentioned anywhere, because if they were some, if not all would be more powerful then Elminster.[/quote:24h3eunw]
I don't know, but I can imagine that this could be because (perhaps) the characters are owned by Interplay?

Just a thought.

Either way, I really wish they'd stop with making every single bloody thing part of 'cannon'. Instead I'd much rather have several levels of 'canon'; one which only contains the official rulebooks and then only the latest publications (so only 3E). A less strict one which includes old sourcebooks and novels. And an even weaker one which contains additional things published by the various authors (like Ed) in forums and on their websites and such.

Because the way it is it's nearly impossible to keep track of what's true and what isn't [i:24h3eunw]and[/i:24h3eunw] a lot of stuff actually contradicts itself. I know that they justify this by saying that in games players just choose themselves what they want to be true, but that doesn't help much in a global, online space.

Love -x-x-x-

Shir'le

Argoth · Post by **Argoth** » Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:34 pm

Wow. Now I see there's something big going on...

Shyressa · Post by **Shyressa** » Fri Aug 10, 2007 7:57 am

was browsing the forums, reading the older posts and I saw the posts on the Chosen. Now if some of you may recall, Mystra didnt have to seek out bodies for her Chosen. The 7 daughters are technically and actually her real daughters, born to Dornal Silverhand and Elue', who harbored Mystra in her body at the time, so they are as much Mystra's brood as their parents. Nor are all of Mystra's Chosen female, case in point Elminster and Khelben. Also, the Chosen can die, since Sylune' herself was killed by a dragon, although she survives as a spirit. But as Chosen they each hold a fragment of the power of the Weave at Mystra's request, thus there is no conflict since being a Chosen does not mean that they have to be worshippers of Mystra, especially since they are related to the Goddess of Magic, or at least were, since int eh Time of Troubles the old Goddess of Magic was destroyed and Midnight replaced her as Mystra.

Heh make of that as you will =)

Xandurpein · Post by **Xandurpein** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:39 am

I am not entirely up to date with all the speculations about 4th Edition and events leading up to it. But if they are going to change the way magic works and explain it by a cataclysmic world event, that involves the spellplague, will that involve destruction of the weave? And if it does, what possible consequences could that have for Mystra, and by extension her chosen and QiluÃ©?

Post by **Shir'le E. Illios** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 11:51 am

[quote="Xandurpein":xpfrgjov]I am not entirely up to date with all the speculations about 4th Edition and events leading up to it. But if they are going to change the way magic works and explain it by a cataclysmic world event, that involves the spellplague, will that involve destruction of the weave? And if it does, what possible consequences could that have for Mystra, and by extension her chosen and QiluÃ©?[/quote:xpfrgjov]
At this point... your guess is as good as mine.

Love -x-x-x-

Shir'le

Unen_Stealthfoot · Post by **Unen_Stealthfoot** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 8:31 pm

[color=indigo:1vfaewaq]Damned WotC. Everyone is (relatively) happy with the way thing are, why do they have to change the whole blasted game? *ticked off expression*[/color:1vfaewaq]

Argoth · Post by **Argoth** » Thu Oct 18, 2007 10:19 pm

The world goes on, none can predict the future, anything is possible, bla bla bla... For something as popular as D&D, there has to be a change every once in a while for new books to be releced. And the bottom line is... again... CASH!

Unen_Stealthfoot · Post by **Unen_Stealthfoot** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 4:11 am

[color=indigo:2tp47wmf]To modify a quote from Monty Python and the Holy Grail: "I spit in WotC's general direction"[/color:2tp47wmf]

Argoth · Post by **Argoth** » Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:45 am

How very true Uneana...

Unen_Stealthfoot · Post by **Unen_Stealthfoot** » Tue Oct 23, 2007 7:26 pm

[color=indigo:lt86w7qu]I recently got a copy of 'A Grand History of the Realms', and (yes, I read the whole thing nearly through, despite the fact it's more of a reference tool) at the end it says something about the Spellplague:

"Only Greater Dieties prove strong enough to maintain their realms against the resultant chaos....."

Doesn't look to good for Eilistraee, but she is (as far as I know) the only remaining diety that maintains two separate planes as her home, so ???? Maybe it'll be enough. Doesn't look good for wizards, either:

"Thousands of mages are driven insane or destroyed..."[/color:lt86w7qu]

Eilistraee.com

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