Rituals

Unen_Stealthfoot · Post by **Unen_Stealthfoot** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:09 pm

[color=indigo:k9csvh36]Is there a complete, specific list of rituals for Eilistraeen clerics, and if so, how exactly are they carried out?[/color:k9csvh36]

Bhaern Quel · Post by **Bhaern Quel** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:49 pm

Well not sure we will ever have a complete list.

It also depends on what you consider a rictual. The Run clearly is a requirement once a year, but it has not a set form.

There are.

Sword Dance, dancing to a blade and blooding each limb on the blade.
Circle of Song, which can occur after any hunt, in which the worshipers sit and dance by turns in a circle, each one leading a song.
The High Hunt, once a season, where cleerics naked leads the hunt for a dangerous beast or monster.
Change Dance, timing uncertain, only done by male Clerics to become female for a time.
Last Dance, a retirement dance where the Cleric dances with the Dark Maiden and disappears from the world.

Argoth · Post by **Argoth** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:16 pm

Yeah. I was just gonna say that myself...

Unen_Stealthfoot · Post by **Unen_Stealthfoot** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 1:49 am

[color=indigo:1zbzars1]But are any gender related? (except for the changedance, of course) I mean, are there any that require the cleric to be in female form?[/color:1zbzars1]

Bhaern Quel · Post by **Bhaern Quel** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:12 am

[quote="Unen_Stealthfoot":2og42408][color=indigo:2og42408]But are any gender related? (except for the changedance, of course) I mean, are there any that require the cleric to be in female form?[/color:2og42408][/quote:2og42408]

As it stands now I do not believe so. When Ed speaks, the Change Dance, it becomes canon unless WotC prints something different. In second Edition only females could be Clerics to lead rictuals, in thrid there was some print indicating that some male Clerics might exist. Some things all followers could be a part of like Circle Dance and The High Hunt (just not lead one) and others required a Cleric (which used to be only female) like Sword Dance, The Run and Last Dance.

I might be able to get Ed speak a little more on the topic, however between NDA and preference to keep the dieties flexable and ocult (hidden) in some ways it might be hard to get an abswer from him.

Unen_Stealthfoot · Post by **Unen_Stealthfoot** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 8:21 pm

[color=indigo:34h24au1]Hmmm... *looks thoughtful* well, thank ye much.[/color:34h24au1]

Rooky · Post by **Rooky** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 8:14 am

A question for a Change Dance. Why didn't they put the option for females becoming males for a time?
It is a democracy of sorts...Right?

Bhaern Quel · Post by **Bhaern Quel** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 11:21 pm

[quote="Rooky":3ng03lll]A question for a Change Dance. Why didn't they put the option for females becoming males for a time?
It is a democracy of sorts...Right?[/quote:3ng03lll]

While a few of us here have discussed the idea and support it, it appears in order to be a Priest in Ed's opinion one must be female for a time. As it stands right now that is just the way it is. Males must understand female conditions by being one and females have no requirement to be male to understand the male conditions.

Argoth · Post by **Argoth** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 7:45 am

Well I agree. From a psychological point of view it's true.

Unen_Stealthfoot · Post by **Unen_Stealthfoot** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 6:02 pm

[color=indigo:2jvueip7]Because females are more understanding than males?[/color:2jvueip7]

Argoth · Post by **Argoth** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 6:40 pm

Well I guess that's the case. At least part of it. And I will not say another word on this topic. I'm under the influence of a book, the moral of which, when it comes to male female relations is : women are whores and men are suns-of-bitches. Sorry to say that. The book is hard sometimes, but I really want to finish it.

Unen_Stealthfoot · Post by **Unen_Stealthfoot** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 7:09 pm

[color=indigo:16hpp0q0]Ooookaaayyy....

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Argoth · Post by **Argoth** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 6:55 am

Unen_Stealthfoot · Post by **Unen_Stealthfoot** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:48 pm

Fyra Sil'Kilond · Post by **Fyra Sil'Kilond** » Sat Feb 02, 2008 9:40 pm

Something that Keira mentioned to me when Fyra asked about this, was that the reason male clerics undergo this ritual is so they can better understand Eilistraee, seeing as she is a goddess and obviously female, so as to better understand how to serve her. Hence why there is no requirement for female clerics to undergo the opposite ritual, because it wouldn't really lead to any greater understanding of Eilistraee. Though Fyra's always been for understanding everyone around her and not just her goddess, and being male would give her insights on how to interact with people of said gender more easily. So from what I have gathered its not [i:1uc13yth]necessary[/i:1uc13yth] for a Priestess to undergo such a ritual to become male for a time, I think it could be construed as a helpful learning tool.