Eilistraee LIVES!

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Re: Eilistraee LIVES!

Post by Bhaern Quel » Mon Nov 21, 2016 3:49 am

[quote="Irennan":2wecsuug]On a side note, the part about them being "scantily clad beautiful women", combined with the fact that they are described as weak in power (in battle, they mostly try to turn undead, and cast weak healing spells), does make them look like damsels in distress, and makes no sense within their lore (priestesses of Eilistraee use whatever practial gear that thet can get). That's rather annoying[/quote:2wecsuug]

Yes that bother me a little along with them being Sword Dancers. It did not feel correct as to lore that I recall. There again lore can change at a drop of ink.

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Re: Eilistraee LIVES!

Post by Leonides02 » Sat Jan 21, 2017 8:13 am

You know, I'm sorry the changedance is no longer necessary. I thought that was such a neat, unique, and very [i:3qfp0fbg]pagan[/i:3qfp0fbg] feature of the goddess. I think I'll keep it in my game. :)

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Post by Irennan » Sat Jan 21, 2017 3:51 pm

[quote="Leonides02":3k1sbxid]You know, I'm sorry the changedance is no longer necessary. I thought that was such a neat, unique, and very [i:3k1sbxid]pagan[/i:3k1sbxid] feature of the goddess. I think I'll keep it in my game. :)[/quote:3k1sbxid]

No longer necessary, but not necessarily abolished. The fact that it is no longer necessary is good IMO, because that means that Eilistraee can now more easily bond with males too, while those who want it (be it for personal reasons, or in order to feel closer to Eilistraee) can still undergo the changedance. It leaves more room to choice, which really fits Eilistraee, since she's so big on freedom of expression.

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Re: Eilistraee LIVES!

Post by Irennan » Wed Mar 14, 2018 12:50 am

More news about Eilistraee (and all the drow pantheon) coming soon with the Mordenkainen's Tome of Foes. According to Jeremy Crawford, one of the authors, the book will include in-depth info on all the drow pantheon. Now I'm actually excited to see this (despite his over-emphasizing Drizzt in the first part of the video, he says: "The book goes into a lot of depth about the drow pantheon" at about 6:35).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hgP6JnWh4Ig&feature=youtu.be

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Post by Irennan » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:10 am

Also, Jeremy Crawford's confirmation (I was going to ask him, but someone preceded me):

https://twitter.com/JeremyECrawford/sta ... 2083945472

Eilistraee will get a nice section just for her, so will the rest (the Vulkoor mentioned in the tweet is the main god of the drow in Eberron).

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Post by Bhaern Quel » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:25 am

Change Dance a Blessing?

It might be a take away, however I would not hope for much. The book clearly is multi-verse and by such nature offers everything and nothing. What works in Grey Hawk does not always work in Forgotten Realms.

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Post by Irennan » Wed Mar 14, 2018 2:33 am

Bhaern Quel wrote:Change Dance a Blessing?

It might be a take away, however I would not hope for much. The book clearly is multi-verse and by such nature offers everything and nothing. What works in Grey Hawk does not always work in Forgotten Realms.
The ChangeDance has never really been implemented by WotC as published lore. It's only Ed's lore, and he has now clarified that in the current era the ChangeDance is no longer needed, and only optional. I find that new divine blessing quite interesting, tho.

Yes, the book is Multiverse, but they explicitly said that it will include sections regarding each race in the various worlds. The fact that he said in-depth info also makes me think that each deity will receive at least a decent amount of into. As for me, I'm only happy that new D&D/FR fans will get to Eilistraee and how wonderful she is, and that we'll get some updates (and that she's now established as part of the 5e pantheon, without much risk of getting forgotten and swept away, or that her return will be revised).

Besides, FR is now their core world, so there's also that.

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Re: Eilistraee LIVES!

Post by Shir'le E. Illios » Wed Mar 14, 2018 10:55 am

Sounds like it could be quite promising. Thank you. :)

And it does sound like this blessing is something separate from the Change Dance, but quite interesting.


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Post by Irennan » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:46 am

I've noticed 1 particular thing. That is, in their new lore, the drow weren't cursed. When all the elves lost their connection to Arvandor and lost their shapeshifting abilities, they were crystallized into w/e form they were wearing (or into w/e form was their favorite), that means that the drow have always looked like drow ever since they lost their shapeshifting ability.

I honestly welcome this change, even tho I don't like seeing previous lore being disregarded like this. The idea of a such a curse has always been incredibly lame IMHO, and--most importantly--that BS about brown elves (that has never had anything to do with Eilistraee and cheapened all that she stands for) has now been entirely and unmistakably retconned into oblivion.

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